Comments on: 8: The Mormon Proposition and Me

By: Eunice

Eunice — Thu, 19 May 2011 00:57:24 +0000

“but I’d still like to believe that when it comes to matters of integrity and seeking to be a trustworthy Christian witness to the world that we’d be on the same page.”

you just wrote what i deeply feel inside.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:15:13 +0000

Definitely not just you.

By: anita

anita — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 03:02:37 +0000

Lucinda –> I hear you and yes, I would much rather be having faith conversations with other GLBTQ people around the love of God than primarily offering apologies and explanations for why they seem to hear and feel so little of it from the only Christians they seem to encounter.

RDM–> That cycle of change you gave is certainly something I would hope for too

Melissa –>I really am sorry for the heartache you feel but all you can do is just keep living your life as honorably and faithfully as you can and trust that those who love you will see beyond any presuppositions and see you for who you are and for who they’ve always loved.

Stephanie –> I appreciate so much what you said in terms of just being able to give people time to find their way without a reaction of condemnation. My feeling is that a constant barrage of correction, quoting scriptures, calling to repentance, and speaking words of condemnation says that the one doing it believes that the power lies within them to effect change in the one they believe is walking in sin rather than relying on God’s ability to convict and reconcile the prodigal to himself. And then of course, that also means that if no change occurs perhaps they need to consider that God sees things differently than they do.

By: RDM

RDM — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:06:47 +0000

hi! anita,
thanks for bringing these important issues to us. Dialogue generates discussion and discussion provokes thought and thought leads to understanding and understanding brings us to questioning and acceptance which leads to knowledge and salvation.
Back here in Aus we are quite unaware of the issues confronting the gay community and it is good to be up to speed about such issues.
Thanks…

By: Lucinda

Lucinda — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:16:47 +0000

You have raised such a great point. I am struck over and over again at how the conservative church decides that the end is more important than the means. This is evident by the way the truth is continually tweaked as a manipulative technique to incite anti-gay bias. So many are being deceived and so many hurt by it. And, as you say, the most dreadful part about it is the damage done to the Gospel message and the reputation of Christ.
I recently hear a gay woman say “Christians equal hate. I know there are some who don’t feel that way. But it seems like that is all that I see”.
Just what kind of a testimony is that?????????

By: anita

anita — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:14:25 +0000

Kristin–> I appreciate you binging up the same curiosity as it presented itself with Romney. I was going to include that piece as well but decided I’d already said more than enough…as I often do I think with Romney though there was some hesitation among evangelicals, at least at the more conservative end to cast a vote in his direction because of his religion. While many had no clue, at least until the media made it public that the Mormon church had spearheaded ProtectMarriage.com, I can’t imagine there wasn’t a single evangelical Christian voter who wasn’t aware of Romney’s religious affiliation.

By: anita

anita — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:01:32 +0000

While I won’t respond to your comment regarding the LDS church in context to the material presented in the documentary (for the same reason I mentioned in my post) I hope you and others understand that the language and characterizations I used regarding Mormons wasn’t reflective of my attitude but of what reflects the position of a certain segment in evangelical Christianity.

By: Kristin

Kristin — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 03:55:36 +0000

Well said (and reasoned). In a similar vein, I found Evangelical support for Romney to be equally perplexing. That Evangelicals find more in common with the LDS than their GLBTQ parishioners is troubling to say the least. With the former, they share opposition to the equal rights for GLBTQ persons. With the latter, they share a commitment to the love God with all of one’s heart, soul, mind and strength (Great Commandment) and to share the good news of God’s love with the world (Great Commission). Apparently the gospel isn’t such good news, because having the wrong views about marriage can apparently trump it (leaving a person on the outside of the church) faster than a person can say “propitiation.”

By: Mormons Are Christian

Mormons Are Christian — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 03:16:49 +0000

While it is true that Mormons probably gave more money than any other congregants, the church itself only gave a small fraction (in the form of donated labor) of what, Dobson’s group gave.

It is a shame that Christians feel compelled to take pot shots at other Christian denominations. Mormons have a legitimate claim to the title “Christian”:

Mormons’ theology is based on First Century Christianity, not Fourth Century Creeds. For example, Mormon’s views on Baptism, Lay Ministry, the Trinity, Theosis, Grace vs. Works, the Divinity of Jesus Christ comport more closely with Early Christianity than any other denomination. And Mormons’ teenagers have been judged to “top the charts” in Christian Characteristics by a UNC-Chapel Hill study. Read about it here:

http://MormonsAreChristian.blogspot.com

Those who would denigrate the Mormon religion, usually have an ulterior motive.

By: caremin

caremin — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:49:55 +0000

You make a good point Anita. Evangelicals both condeming, and working with the LDS church . . . sounds like hypocrisy to me!
It’s frightening to realize that the “wolves in sheep’s clothing” might actually include those (evangelical organizations and churches) that have been pointing their accusatory fingers at others. But then again, when organizations venture down the slimy slope of propaganda in order to advance an agenda, their integrity has already been compromised.